Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying

by Chris
(Texas)

Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying

Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying

Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying
Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying
Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying
Old Green Compressor - Help Identifying

I just picked this up from the side of the road. Everything seems to be free, Motor and Piston wheel spin freely and I can hear the piston pop so I think it is worth trying to fix but I cannot locate any tags or labels that would help identify it. When I picked it up water was swishing around and it would not drain so I wonder if that is why it was thrown out. I removed the drain plug and poked it with a piece of wire and oil sludge started pouring out, on the plus side, very little rust came out so maybe the sludge protected it some. I am sure I got close to half a gallon out of it and it is still slowly dripping into a bowl. Anyway, I figured if I can fix it then it gives me a second smaller compressor to use. The only marking I can find is that sticker on the side which I see on Wards and Sears compressors and the tag on the Doerr motor which seems to be a popular motor on compressors. Any help getting a model number for parts would be greatly appreciated. I would like to do a complete overhaul on the gaskets, seals and rings.


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Sep 11, 2014
Thanks
by: Chris in TX

Thanks guys,
I did find some parts from Sears I believe but they charge way too much for their stuff so I am trying to source my parts from more affordable options. As for the plate or anything else that could be an identifier on this compressor, I cannot find any. Either they rusted off, broke off, were removed or were chinchy stickers that did not stand the test of time. I am going to try and pull the compressor out and put some fittings on it to fill it with water and get it under pressure to test the tank before putting much more effort into it. For the overhaul kits, I did find one that has the same filter on Ebay for $40. The filter is want called my attention to the kit. The rest have filter that are 4.5" x 1.5" x.5" but mine is a 4"L filter so I bet that is the correct kit for my compressor. If so that is $20 saved there. I would like to get the entire thing sand blasted too so I could put a fresh coat of paint on it, but that would be a luxury not necessity.

Sep 10, 2014
Lots Of Old Sear Compressor Parts Here:
by: Anonymous

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/brands-products/Craftsman-Parts/Air-compressor-Parts?page=1

I'm sure you will find your model in there. I think I already found it just scanning through quickly.

Sep 10, 2014
No Idea How To Gauge Tank Servicability
by: Anonymous

Short of ultrasonic testing, I don't see how you could accurately gauge how much the tank has corroded over the years. If I remember correctly, most of the overhaul kits for these pumps included the proper filters for several different versions of the pump, but you should try and find out exactly which one it is to be on the safe side. I would look to see if there is a date stamp on the tank certification label. It looks like the original pump, so the date tag will likely be from the same era as the pump itself, which should narrow down the part numbers considerably. There are still quite a few parts available for older compressors on the Sear parts website, so maybe check there as well. Little know fact: Sears used to sell Kelloggs in the past, and there are still Kellogg parts listed on Sears parts website as well. I know they used to use Kelloggs in their service bays as well, as I used to do the service on a few of them. No matter, as Kellogg is back in business anyway, and there are many aftermarket sources for Kellogg parts as well.

Sep 10, 2014
I agree
by: Chris in Tx

I agree with what you way about a leaky tank. I got very little rust out of this tank when draining and will be doing some more cleaning on the inside. I will likely fill it with hot water and dish soap to break up the oils as much as possible. I am sure I will run this through a few times before the water comes out oil free. I also will test the tank by filling it with water as much as possible before filling it with air. The water will not compress so if there is a leak it will be a water leak with very little air pressure behind it pushing it. I am going to try to break the valve chamber down this weekend and see where it stands. I found an overhaul kit of Ebay for $60 that covers the CH compressors in several different variations but if I can nail down the exact model when I open it up I think it will better my chances of being able to get one of the $40 kits instead. I am getting close to about $100 for the over haul. I may still do it just to get it under my belt.

Is there any way to see how much the tank has rusted out or to gauge the thickness of the tank? If it is a leaky tank I will likely take the tank and turn it into a forge/foundry. Seems like it will be a good size for that.

Sep 09, 2014
Tanks
by: Anonymous

I would be VERY wary of airing up any old tank on a compressor I found by the side of the road. I shudder sometimes when I see the "amazing" compressor people have gotten for a song. It looks like a time bomb. And I have seen air tanks catch fire internally from the oil residue in the bottom. If any tank begins to leak, toss it immediately. I don't care if you fixed it with a braze or a screw or chewing gum, it is waiting to kill you or someone you love.

Sep 09, 2014
All Campbell Hausfeld pumps
by: Anonymous

They are all branded Campbell Hausfeld units. Looks like Sears also used green paint on theirs. It's a pretty simple design but it works remarkably well, unless they are being foisted off on buyers as 5hp units being spun madly atop a 60 gal tank, as I have seen in some places.

Sep 09, 2014
houston craigslist
by: Anonymous

It does look pretty close;

Does yours have an outlet off the tank at the motor end like that? Can tell from your pix.

Sep 09, 2014
Looks a lot like this compressor
by: Chris in TX

Found this compressor on Craigslist. It looks very similar to my compressor. Thoughts?

http://houston.craigslist.org/tls/4614027608.html

Sep 09, 2014
SpeedAire, AKA Campbell Hausfeld.
by: Anonymous

That's an old Campbell Hausfeld VT series pump. Very simple to overhaul, you just have to know which style you are building. I belive the green paint makes it a SpeedAire unit, sold by Grainger.

Sep 08, 2014
piston rings and stuff
by: Doug in s.d.ca

What? Under a hundred?

If the motor is strong and you can get the pulleys lined up, I think you'll have a $400+ machine...

The fact you can even get parts for it says a lot.

Sep 08, 2014
Possibly this one?
by: Chris

So I was looking at compressors on craigslist in the hopes that I would find one that looked like mine. I found 106.153380 that looks identical.
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/craftsman-106153380-one-cylinder-tank-type-paint-sprayer-parts-c-158286_158875_159027.html

Part #46 looks exactly like mine and I do not see the same part on any other compressor. If that is the case than the sad part is that the replacement parts to overhaul with new gaskets and rings seems to outweigh the cost of buying one in decent shape to start with. Just not sure it will be worth the time and expense. What say you?

I may end up parting it out and keeping the tank for extra air. My existing compressor is a 5HP on a 22Gal tank so I am sure it has more than enough to fill this 10-15gal tank in tandem as well.

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Help Identifying old Pump for Parts

by Jordan Siwicki
(Rochester NY USA)

Front view of old air compresor

Front view of old air compresor

Front view of old air compresor
Entire old air Compressor
Back where DATA plate may have been on old air compressor
Right side view of older air compressor

Hi. I have searched and searched and searched and cant seem to find anything of this pump on the internet. It has a small "rod knock" when it first turns on, but after a second of running and pressure is built up in the head it goes away. I would like to repair it as that is not good in the long run. We recently bought this used a month or so ago and have no information on it. It is an old(1964 was told from Grainger) Speedaire Compressor. I have called Grainger and talked to a few tech's, and all 3 have determined that the pump has been replaced along with the belt cage which is Blue and Speedaire products are always Speedaire Green. The pump has NO information on it. The sticker or DATA plate has been removed, I assume there was one because I found a spot where it may have been. So I don't think any info from the Compressor assemble would help or not. It is a 10HP motor that runs this. The diameter of the flywheel on the pump is 18 1/2". There are 2 casting numbers found on the pump. One is on the lower part of the head below the air filter 81300, the other being on the exhaust manifold 80999. I will have a picture of the whole compressor. One of the front of the compressor to show the piping behind the flywheel which seems to be very distinct and I think it may be a specific manufacturer that does this. One of the back where i think the name would be. And one of the right side from above the motor. I hope this is enough info, and the that the pictures are enough. i can attach more that I have or take more if we need a specific view. Thank you in advance.

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Jan 19, 2015
Thats It!
by: Jordan

Thank you so much! I thought Id receive an email for this response and I dont remember seeing one, which is why I have a late response. I looked up this brand, and they look identical to what i have! Now Im still going to look for a rebuild kit or parts or whatever i can find. The pump is still running very well, still has the knock at start up, but hasnt seem to have gotten any worse. Again, thank you so much! Now I have a direction i can look for parts!

Aug 31, 2014
Ceccato
by: Bill

Just a note to say thank you for the number of helpful responses to identifying a number of older air compressors. While your comments are anonymous, the information identifies you as an experienced air person. Thanks again, and have a good one!

B.

Aug 31, 2014
Ceccato
by: Anonymous

It's an Italian pump made by Ceccato. They used to be a CompAir brand. They are very simple but seem to last pretty good for what they are. I don't know where you might find parts for them nowadays, but I'm sure they are laying on a shelf somewhere.

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